I'm just starting out on all this. Been meticulously working on learning to day trade from Tim both in How to make Millions (Currently On Disc 6) and off of YouTube, and also on a paper account in ThinkorSwim. Yes its been a struggle but yet a very fun and fulfilling journey for me. Currently I'm having issues getting past the idea that I will not be able to trade intraday because of the Pattern Day Trading rule and I don't have nearly the 25k it takes to get past that, I'm starting with an account size of 1k. Just would like to open my first discussion as a newbie for the newbies. I'm so eager to start trading with my actual money, but I know its better to learn and study the patterns and rules before I start live trading.